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Innercycling.com
03-15-2004, 12:33 AM
I thought this should be a topic cause I did my homework check this link:
http://www.plhb.com/cms/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=43
it is where I derived info from "The Anatomy coloring book" byWynn Kapit and Lawrence M. Elson

It may be that a lot of people don't care or believe in the hand positions represented in the Spinning Program, but I do. I teach Spinning as an art; as it was taught to me by my teacher, Johnny G. I don't make people keep hand positions, I merely ask and show and smile with confidence on their validity and 99% respond by placing their hands in the proper position. I will not tell you you have to do anything, my friend. I am merely happy to be able to discuss things like this and thank you for responding.



The point behind 5000 to 10000 repetitions is just my perception and my progression. To perform a movement with intention and connection requires longevity and retention.



The use of three hand positions does have many safe biomechanical reasons to them as well as offering unity and form so that all may follow. Spinning is a language of movements and its interpretation can be done in any language and personality. This is best put in the fact that Spinning is taught in over 80 countries. A person traveling around the world and teach or ride with a language of movements so that all can follow with a series of visuals and not just verbal instructions. In the Spinning program, our hands are our means of non-verbal communication to our students about the terrain we are currently riding.



Now on to HP1 and HP2 and HP3 biomechanical reasons : The use of the bottom of the wrist, as in HP 1 (aka karate chop part), where the nerves are much less dense insures no damage to the Median nerve (Carpenter nerve) which supplies the anterior forearm muscles and the thenar muscles. Continuous pressure on the flat part of the wrist, as in improper HP1 and improper HP2 (carpal tunnel area), can result in some sensory deficit to fingers 1-3 and weakness to thumb movement (Carpal Tunnel Syndrome).



Cupping the top of the bars, as in improper HP3, can lead to damage of the flexors muscles of the wrist therein and activation of the forearms (Digitorum Profundas and Superficialis) which is unnecessary. The use of the thumb muscle (thenar) over the front of the bars would suffice and takes away very little power and force.



The placement of HP1,2,3 also leads to the relaxing of the upper torso, therefore, allowing most heart beats to be derived from the lower torso where the largest muscles in the body are located. I call this "the mo fat burning parts". Try this yourself: take thumbs under the bar whether in HP1 or HP2 , you will feel your shoulder muscles(Deltoids) "turn on" to support the position and again stealing heart beats from you and your training. It is actually unnatural to keep your hands here because unlike cycling you don't have to "hold on" because the bike is going nowhere.





Peace and Love and Agree to disagree

BILLY

AC
03-16-2004, 10:31 AM
I believe in the biomechanical reasons given. I always perceived HP1 as a place to begin, a place to end and a place to find balance at different phases in the ride. I think it gives a centering effect to your upper body.

guest
03-16-2004, 06:26 PM
Good try Billy. I liked the part about agree to disgree better. I am not convinced about the science/safety but agree it is a question of comfort. I am comfortable moving all around the bars. Peace.