Where do you stop being a cyclist?

[megale3]

Dirty unshaven blue jean wearing guy on a pink little girls bike with flat tires going the wrong way while smoking a cigarette.
Proper thing to ask individual ? Where did you find the bike?

[kszspin]

Hey, I got a bunch of those guys down here! You know those dudes who get busted for their 10th DUI or something :roll: and the judge takes away their DL, so they borrow their kid's bike (even if it has streamers hanging off the bars) to get around. So now their are loaded on the bike going the wrong way home from work or the bar. :o

[megale3]

I have a few around here that make the bike path their home. One once asked for some money to get food. I said I knew where a place is that would take him in and feed him. His reply was that he was not that bad off. :o

[SpinBob]

Around me we have a pretty large immigrant population that seems to be riding bikes, either because they can't afford a car or can't get a DL. Nothing like what you discribe, though.

[megale3]

Around me we have a pretty large immigrant population that seems to be riding bikes, either because they can't afford a car or can't get a DL. Nothing like what you discribe, though.
Do you have the guys with the signs on the free way enterances and off ramps at the lights asking for money?
Meg

[SpinBob]

That was widespread when I was living in California, but it doesn't seem to be an east coast thing.

[megale3]

That was widespread when I was living in California, but it doesn't seem to be an east coast thing.
So you haven't started it there yet? Get busy Bob I hear those dudes make a fortune playin the pathetic game.:D
M

[SpinBob]

I might have to if we don't get raises again next year...

[megale3]

I might have to if we don't get raises again next year...
WORD!!

[sandy]

Do you have the guys with the signs on the free way enterances and off ramps at the lights asking for money?
Meg

Just saw one of those on the Major Deegan, coming back from a Laguardia airport run in bumper to bumper traffic in the MIDDLE median with a sign. It was right before Yankee Stadium, but I don't think it was any of Yankees!

[SpinBob]

Maybe it was Joe Torre, Don Mattingly or A-Rod, they're all looking for work now...

[Pink]

Do you have the guys with the signs on the free way enterances and off ramps at the lights asking for money?
Meg

Ummmm, no. There certainly are homeless, but they tend to be in center city.

[spinguru]

They are everywhere in Philadelphia -- at least on my route to work every day! They stand in the middle of the street holding up signs when the lights turn red, knock on your windows and beg for money -- it's scary sometimes when I'm coming home late after having class at night -- I keep all my windows up and the doors locked. The same homeless guy has been doing this at the intersection of 6th Street and Vine in Center City for as long as a I can remember. They also stand at the entrance to the Schuylkill Expressway and risk getting run over by commuters trying to make that light.

I feel compassion for them, but they still scare me.

[RaffCycles]

I have a few around here that make the bike path their home. One once asked for some money to get food. I said I knew where a place is that would take him in and feed him. His reply was that he was not that bad off. :o

Meg, I do the same thing. I once used to hand out McDonalds Gift Certificates and one guy yelled at me and said "What you trying to do? Give me a heart attack?". He was pretty ticked off.

[Pink]

Meg, I do the same thing. I once used to hand out McDonalds Gift Certificates and one guy yelled at me and said "What you trying to do? Give me a heart attack?". He was pretty ticked off.

Oh my, that's hysterical!

But back to topic...last week I was driving to class in heavy rain. I was coming up on a cyclist, lots of traffic, seeing him from the back. He was on one of those little BMX bikes, wearing regular clothes with a hoody tied tight around his head. From the back, I could see he didn't have his hands on the bars. As I passed him, I saw he had a coffee cup in one hand & a cigarette in the other! In some perverted way, I admired him. But he should have had a helmet on. :D

[RaffCycles]

You stop being a cyclist when you stop riding a bike (despite what you wear or ride).

[megale3]

You stop being a cyclist when you stop riding a bike (despite what you wear or ride).
I believe everyone diagnoses themselves. We can only be called to task by first evaluating what we will allow ourselves to achieve with the ability to do so. More or less we invent ourselves and then define ourselves. You would have to ask the drunk on the girls bike if he thinks himself a cyclist or just a guy going somewhere and did not want to walk a straight line. We define ourselves and you precieve who we are by the way we act.
Deep
Meg
Its illegal here to ride a bike drunk on a public street going the wrong way.

[Pink]

I believe everyone diagnoses themselves. We can only be called to task by first evaluating what we will allow ourselves to achieve with the ability to do so. More or less we invent ourselves and then define ourselves. You would have to ask the drunk on the girls bike if he thinks himself a cyclist or just a guy going somewhere and did not want to walk a straight line. We define ourselves and you precieve who we are by the way we act.
Deep
Meg
Its illegal here to ride a bike drunk on a public street going the wrong way.

You could apply this to anything...are you a mother just because you've given birth? Technically, yes, I guess you are. But what if you have nothing to do with the child? Are you still a mother? Guess so, just not an involved one.

But you are right, self-perception is important. I remember a discussion with someone about who can consider themselves an athlete. They called me an athlete and I said I was a housewife. They argued that by definition anyone who performs athletic endeavors is an athlete. I started pondering that, eventually accepting it for myself & I began approaching things differently. Nothing really changed but my perception, but it eventually changed the way I approached my activity.

[megale3]

You could apply this to anything...are you a mother just because you've given birth? Technically, yes, I guess you are. But what if you have nothing to do with the child? Are you still a mother? Guess so, just not an involved one.

But you are right, self-perception is important. I remember a discussion with someone about who can consider themselves an athlete. They called me an athlete and I said I was a housewife. They argued that by definition anyone who performs athletic endeavors is an athlete. I started pondering that, eventually accepting it for myself & I began approaching things differently. Nothing really changed but my perception, but it eventually changed the way I approached my activity.
So it wasn't till the activity gained preponderance that you allowed yourself to achieve goals. So may be if you tell the guy he is a cyclist that he gets the idea and becomes more associated to that way of thinking. Most people I know would want to take the bike away from the guy because they in turn have to include him in their perception of what a cyclist is.
M

[kszspin]

Whoa, way deep man, my head hurts now. http://www.flytyingforum.com/style_emoticons/default/bugeyes.gif (http://javascript<b></b>:add_smilie()

[Lewis]

So it wasn't till the activity gained preponderance that you allowed yourself to achieve goals. So may be if you tell the guy he is a cyclist that he gets the idea and becomes more associated to that way of thinking. Most people I know would want to take the bike away from the guy because they in turn have to include him in their perception of what a cyclist is.
M





"Looks like someone got verbal advantage for christmas!":D

[RaffCycles]

Meg, have you been studying Ancient Greek Philosophy?

[Pink]

Most people I know would want to take the bike away from the guy because they in turn have to include him in their perception of what a cyclist is.
M

Ahhh, but that's their issue, not his.

[megale3]

Ahhh, but that's their issue, not his.
True but if "we all define ourselves" and may associate this two wheeled alter-ego as a cyclist it may indeed have a negative impact on ourselves because he rides this little girls bike. Are we our brothers keepers because it does us well? Hey you are like me and I hate me for it.
Meg

[Pink]

True but if "we all define ourselves" and may associate this two wheeled alter-ego as a cyclist it may indeed have a negative impact on ourselves because he rides this little girls bike. Are we our brothers keepers because it does us well? Hey you are like me and I hate me for it.
Meg

Naw, what do I care what someone else rides? Honestly, I really don't care and can't see how it affect me or taints what I'm doing.

[megale3]

Naw, what do I care what someone else rides? Honestly, I really don't care and can't see how it affect me or taints what I'm doing.
premise: having to interact with individual on little girls bike. Whether by....
1) saying to him "on your left"
2) or saying "no" to a hand out
3) or telling little girl :(that she needs to take better care of her possesions.
4) Telling Pink that that guy on the little girls bike just ran over and killed a squirrel :D:D
Meg

[Pink]

4) Telling Pink that that guy on the little girls bike just ran over and killed a squirrel :D:D
Meg

OK, so you know my weak spot...

[cfoam4me]

Telling Pink that that guy on the little girls bike just ran over and killed a squirrel :D:DMeg

PRICELESS MEGS, PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p
(the guy on the bike was probably mr cfoam!)

[megale3]

PRICELESS MEGS, PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p
(the guy on the bike was probably mr cfoam!)
Its a community effort -Mr Foamy too!
:D
Pink in desperate times we need to take desperate measures :D